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Educate yourself on why Bitcoin and Blockchain cannot be split up. So, Bitcoin is supposed to replace all forms of physical currency – in theory – because people don’t trust banks. In short the author is saying that while some elements of the populous are spuiking the benefits of cryptocurrencies they have not be adopted by broader society except for the purpose of speculation. ”. Basically Mr. Money Mustache seems to not see anything beyond the Federal Reserve and the toilet paper this ‘private bank’ of the elite churns out! I’m only a mediocre computer scientist. (Then I’ll get out, right? I enjoyed this analysis by Aswath Damodaran, a thoughtful investor and Professor at NYU school of business. Because when the Northeaster blows through my town and knocks down a power line, I want to pay the 15 year old kid who knocked on my door and shoveled my driveway $30 bucks. “According to the index, the amount of energy consumed by mining bitcoin surged about 26 percent in November alone and now totals nearly 36 terawatt hours, enough energy to power about 3.3 million homes. I don’t know, why gold and not platinum or palladium? There is a very good chance that this article will be the butt of jokes 5 years down the road, when the toilet paper fiat currencies are all passe! Maybe then it will go away.” So you did. Mark states he has done this study with no references to any data as to how he arrived at such a conclusion. An Interview with Matt Cutts: Can the Government grow a Money Mustache? It can have applications in the monetary system, contracts, and even as a component in higher level protocols like sharing files. Favorite quote: “Bitcoin’s growth is not based on its technology alone (which, while powerful, is open-source and therefore easily replicable) but rather on the strength of virality, encouraged by the vested interests who held early and invested in marketing it; with no genuine business underlying it, it acquires its (very substantial) memetic potency only from the evangelism of those who hodl and preach.”, David Webb’s great explanation: Bitcoin: the World’s First Decentralized Ponzi Scheme, Preston Byrne again (brilliant guy! This is where the speculating comes in. January 5, 2018, 11:59 am. January 3, 2018, 9:04 pm. Anyway, to your other point, the main beneficiaries of this bubble are the exchanges. The value of bitcoin is very far removed from any sensible fundamental valuation, and the thing driving up the price seems to be a common sense that it will be worth more in the future. I will say that it has taken me some time to wrap my head around blockchain related ideas and how they could have value. The plants are the Petropiar partnership with Chevron Corp. and the Petrocedeno venture with Total SE and Equinor ASA.Venezuela’s acute fuel shortage has forced businesses and factories to shut, while drivers line up for hours or even days to fill up. No gov’t is just going to let the ability to control their economy be taken away from them. More than triple the speed of Visa/MC. C’mon people it’s not rocket science. Most of this money is being spent on military operations to secure foreign resources and kill people will dissenting viewpoints in the name of national security. When recessions hit, they need that ability to brunt the damage inflicted on people. Some people like owning pretty jewelry. A stock is not a ticker symbol; it is a stake in an underlying business. Secondly, Governments are (by definition) other people, spending other people’s money on what other people tell them are other people’s problems – often they screw up fiat currencies through simple incompetence – they have no motivation to get it right. TO_Ont We plan to spice up our investments then, we will have $90K/yr extra to invest and won’t mind taking maybe 10% of that and play/gamble with it :-). His main investing motivation because he feels like he’s late to the game and wants the earnings he could have had. Ryan Thomas Then I came to my senses and realized that I only want to make money providing value to society. And “society” is comprised of them, and nothing else. Vijay, I think you should sell every non-bitcoin asset you own, borrow as much money as you possibly can, and buy as many bitcoins as possible. All points noted. So I did learn a bit about locking and unlocking information, hacking, and ensuring that independent brains (whether they are two adjacent CPUs on a circuit board or two companies negotiating across the Pacific) can trust each other and coordinate their actions in lockstep. Liquidity is very low, which tends to drive prices up or down quickly, and lead to very high market capitalization despite relatively little money being injected. The world’s governments are not going to let everyone start trading money anonymously and evading taxes using Bitcoin. – Air and the US Dollar. If you don’t have fiat money to buy the bitcoin then someone is going to have to start getting paid in btc. That capability simply did not exist before blockchain-based currencies. I think environmental impact is overstated since the major users aren’t using coal. January 3, 2018, 12:06 am, Sounds like a classic case of sour grapes to me :-), Cameron I use purse.io to buy stuff from Amazon. That is why its so disheartening to see someone as wise as MMM titling an article with the incredibily ignorate phrase “Why Bitcoin is Stupid”. Latest being the retail apocalypse. Many are trying to perfect it but until there is a clear winner, different ones will emerge. But a collective insanity has sprouted around the new field of ‘cryptocurrencies’, causing a totally irrational worldwide gold rush. Or the cars people use to haul that stuff then. Let’s take the oil price in the middle of the last decade as an example of a real bubble. But there are interesting aspects to the technology and what it could develop into. This puts USD straight into the bank the Federal Goverment and allows paying of debt. Since the Fed can always print as much currency as it wants, I would probably bet on scenario #2 as well, so perhaps we’re half in agreement. (As Ronnie Chieng says, “What IS it!?!?”). If those strains build, the RBI may struggle to sell bonds to investors at current yields, Relative progress fighting the pandemic has been an important factor in global currency markets. Because hydro acts as a massive built-in storage in both the short term (ms, seconds) and long term ( hours, days, “I don’t see anyone really being that spooked.”Former traders for Credit Suisse Group AG, Davies and Zhu, the two are among the Wall Street pioneers who’ve embraced crypto, along with Dan Morehead of Pantera Capital and Mike Novogratz of Galaxy Digital. If I buy and hold a share of S&P500 ETF for the rest of my life, I will earn back the share price in quarterly dividends eventually. I am laughing my ass out. The short answer is they can do nothing about it! Allow it time to grow to say 10 trillion, and then let us debate on stability. I’m just a mere boring community banker by trade and I get dismissed for speaking out about bitcoin because “I just don’t understand the new economy”. Every currency has something behind it. He or she still determines the current market price. I don’t mind people investing in Bitcoin because it’s not my money. Trust IS the value of Bitcoin. I read somewhere on Twitter (can’t remember where) that you can use anyone who uses “Blockchain” as a proper noun as a heuristic for how little they know of the space. Your comment is timestamped January 7, 2018. Shut up, just send me $100 via PayPal and I’ll send you a bag of my fingernail clippings. January 2, 2018, 8:01 pm. If I lie to you and take your money, that’s one thing. And yet imagine everybody started bidding up Cancer-Pills, to the point that they cost $17,000 each and fluctuate widely in price, seemingly for no reason. The agency’s preliminary GDP estimate in April put growth at 0.4%, while economists surveyed by Bloomberg expected a 0.7% rise.Economic activity in March rose 0.75% from a year prior, the biggest increase since 2019, as the services sector took off while coronavirus cases and deaths plunged, according to a separate release. The shift meant halting the production of the Petrozuata and Zuata Sweet light-oil blends to focus on Merey 16 heavy oil, mostly sold on the Asian market.More stories like this are available on bloomberg.comSubscribe now to stay ahead with the most trusted business news source.©2021 Bloomberg L.P. Bitcoin is back in the news, but this time for losing more than half its value since its peak in mid-April. Bitcoin has very little potential for the long term. No problem! Yeah we could all gamble our way to FIRE, this week bitcoin, next week slot machines, poker, etc. I don’t feel like making a well-constructed arguments because I’m tired and this may make me look like a fool but frankly, I don’t care. No, I am more inclined to trust economic models where the rules are clearly defined and cannot be changed, by anyone, ever. This is yet another extreme example. Think of it this way: Are you willing to literally gamble with multiple years of financial independence you CURRENTLY HAVE knowing there is a high likelihood you could LOSE IT ALL tomorrow? That said, I’m still not so sure. A currency that unstable can’t be realistically used for transactions, even if you forget about its other limitations. Don’t know if you’ve seen JP Sears’s satire of Bitcoin but I think you might appreciate it. Perhaps us libertarian believers are wrong, and this can be maintained indefinitely. Is it likely to be worth $0? Now the ball has reached proportions where it could blow up anytime, and people in this forum are talking about the small change like the bubble and P/E ratio in the stock market. I refer you to: https://shitcoin.me/. Second: Human nature actually tolerates a *lot* of corruption in exchange to stability, so I don’t think we’ll be switching over to this science fair project any time soon. Regular money has nothing behind it either. meep er I don’t know how many of you can even get to understand what this is but hopefully you understand something from the URL I share below of how mining is done, and why this is not some idiotic electricity consuming joke! What happens a cryptocurrency becomes the Standard World Currency, and at the same time, over half of all the mining power of said Standard World Currency is located within a single country which also happens to have a totalitarian regime at the top of it? This idea that you HAVE TO OWN ONE FULL BITCOIN is madness. The tulip mania was a delusion. Well it’s just to own Ethereum. Which is fine, but this trust-less nature of Bitcoin is what the early adopters valued. January 3, 2018, 9:23 am. Now, with that moral sermon out of the way, we might as well talk about why Bitcoin has become such a big thing, so we can separate the usefulness of the underlying technology called “Blockchain”, from the mania about how people have turned Bitcoin it into a big dumb lottery. Soon, they will be on the brink of bankruptcy and you will be able to purchase all of their stuff at a discount. WHY??? No major government will transact in a currency it cannot control. Like every state currency, it derives it’s worth out of the fact that the state says you can *always* pay your taxes with it (and that shops have to accept it). Evan Drake Speculation is great. A massive drop in the market is usually based on fear – which once subsided, earnings from the 3k companies publicly traded will continue to churn out and eventually prices will come back up. It’s absolutely astounding how the general (pretty darn) intelligent public can’t tell the difference between an real asset vs an investment. It’s rising because people are buying it up, hoping someone else will buy it at an even higher price later. Will it help me achieve my financial dreams quicker? Also, not all crypto currencies use PoW to mine / verify transactions. Bitcoin mania isn’t different from the dot.com mania or any other mania going back to the tulip mania. How many decades of using “toilet paper” as a useful medium of exchange are required before you reevaluate your position? The Internet has become insufferable with all of these Bitcoin Clowns. Or stay in touch with them because they might become millionaires? Since every appliance (computer, lightbulb or actual heater) is a 100% efficient electrical heater in a thermodynamic sense, you could shut off your heaters and run mining computers instead, to get the same amount of heat. Banks and elites will remain even with Bitcoin, and if it goes your way it will probably the miningfarms and people who collect the most. Nothing is promised. Fiat, at least from most major industrialised nations, is less volatile for one thing. All these ICOs are just insane. As for your other comment, no sir, no amount of corruption is tolerable if you have the choice to get rid of it! Thank you. I’d love to know what your background is. Because “An investment is something that has intrinsic value.”. Bitcoin is the viral buzzword that has the momentum. Vijay, it’s okay. Sorry, PoF, I’m staying away from your Bitcoins until I see a Tweet about the ones filled with chocolate. But that’s just the start. Bitcoins are scarce, your fingernails are not. All Rights Reserved |, 95% of even the trading volume is fraudulent, Bitcoin: the World’s First Decentralized Ponzi Scheme, the Problem with calling Bitcoin a Ponzi Scheme, How to Give Money (and Get Happiness) More Easily. Bitcoin isn’t that though. I don’t invest in Bitcoin, but I’ve had this sob story in the back of my mind about how I “missed out” when I decided sometime pre-2010 to NOT mine Bitcoin. When I started to feel some FOMO, I know we have to be close to peak interest. No bubble lasts that long and keeps growing exponentially. Poor people have never initiated a tax “loophole”. We end up in Utopia? Since when was that a “down” year? Now let’s get back to your kick-ass money savvy engineering experiments :-), Oh, don’t feel too bad. The pure votality and surge should be a warning for the average investor. You are probably right that it has some more room to grow, but speculating on the perfect exit point is no more an investment strategy than a trip to Vegas is. It doesn’t matter if it goes to $100 trillion per coin or per fingernail – the underlying speculation is bullshit, which is why it needs to be stopped. The truly irrational. There is some potential in the future for the blockchain technology but we are just so early that its hard to pick winners. Guys. And you should be prepared for it. Crypto currency as an ecosphere financially has benefited the tech industry dramatically, and if you invest like Mr Money Mustache advises, that means you probably have a good amount invested into the S&P 500. These people are either shit scared of the changes that are going to come, or don’t understand macro economics. And you don’t want it for this purpose anyway – after all, do you currently hide your money in offshore tax havens and transact your business on black markets? January 3, 2018, 1:43 pm, “Apparently, Amazon pays people in other countries with Amazon gift cards. You guys may enjoy this article about Peter Thiel: https://www.wsj.com/articles/peter-thiels-founders-fund-makes-big-bet-on-bitcoin-1514917433. Things aren’t as crazy as 2000, but this is the 2nd highest peak of all time. VTSAX returned over 22% last year. You know what else they have at bars? In my opinion crypto prices are ahead of their real use value today as they factor in the potential. Qaddafi was taken out because of the Dinar. Take a look at this shot from the website coinmarketcap.com, and observe the preposterous herd behavior in real life: Fig.1: Various cryptocurrencies, ranked by how many people have been fooled. Discussion with friend from nVidia is irrelevant to bitcoin mining. Invest in anything wisely and safely. The value of a blockchain is its immutability, derived from its decentralization. Whether you should get out is a difficult question. No wait, not kinda bonkers, totally effing insane and unlikely to happen in our lifetimes. Vijay – how can it be a useful currency without a relatively stable value? Do you think Governments and Regulators have sat on the sidelines so far while Bitcoin is just exploding to a point that MMM had to sit and write a huge article? Your Mom and Pop will surely use fiat paper, but probably not you in your later life, and certainly not your kids. Video compression tech. The most useful comments are those written with the goal of learning from or helping out other readers – after reading the whole article and all the earlier comments. Do something useful with your money. Is Bitcoin eventually going to replace the physical green back dollars and coins in our pockets? The real winners of the gold rush were the ones who sold shovels. Step 3: Raise the vehicle. A whole Bitcoin? The only thing I would add as a further disagreement to MMM’s article is that speculation is inherently a GOOD thing. Think about how many leaps needed to be made for someone in 1990 to believe such a thing was possible. However when every “Joe” on the street becomes an expert in an asset…then its suspect and you don’t need to be clairvoyant to know that this will not end well. Thank you Jane, I have been waiting for someone to point this out! If you want to move away from current currencies then you would probably have better luck starting a Craigslist for bartering website where you can’t list prices. We will have to see if that new blockchain style will win out. Get listed and sell some shares. A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent operation designed to steal people’s money. Reward for Risk is worse for Powerball. ): the Problem with calling Bitcoin a Ponzi Scheme. Or? Returns are down and all that cash needs to go somewhere. Look at Cardano for example, they are building blockchain with built in treasury and KYC/AML endpoints. China is also a leader in renewables space. The ones that take off will likely be gov’t created versions. Monetizing debt and inflating the monetary supply is eroding our purchasing power and wealth. It is 14 January, 2021 when I am writing this. Subscribe now to stay ahead with the most trusted business news source. The level of planning reflects his unhappiness with his marriage and his desire to furtively put money aside for a rainy day. LennStar The thing these pro-crypto guys never properly address is that even if we accept that cryptocurrencies may someday be useful, what is the fundamental reason that existing currencies have been driven up so high? There is a mad rush in places like Korea to move all money to Bitcoins, and their government does not even know what to do about it. Maybe a “real article” will get the idea to sink in. The measures come as pressure builds on Prime Minister Narendra Modi to impose strict nationwide curbs as he did last year. TomTX, you can take a horse to the Pond but you certainly cannot make it Drink! You basically have to first deposit a lot of money (as a reserve) onto bitcoin exchange sites, which themselves are only loosely regulated and would probably become insolvent if bitcoin crashed. I own my currency as it is today (EUR and USD), how come you do not own yours? A boy named Sue Like every state currency, it derives it’s worth out of the fact that the state says you can *always* pay your taxes with it” Nothing wrong with speculation, as long as you are doing so responsibly and understand the risks. Take risks, but keep educated and with good money management. I’m always reminded of VHS versus beta max but on a few thousand options scale (rather then two) and a higher risk if you choose wrong (at current prices). Enjoy your crash. I don’t know if stock prices will go down. I agree with MMM’s eloquent outlining of the major concerns with “investing” in cryptocurrencies. While silver and copper has been used as a form of money (notably imperial China, it was a silver based society with gold used as a “high” currency”), gold’s special attributes has always been seen as a form of value storage and trusted trade medium. Lastly, once KYC and AML is figured out, I have a hard time understanding why people would even want to use paper fiat instead of a digital fiat. Nixon just took away the last vestiges of the gold standard. I’m a regular reader and respect your opinion. LennStar Vijay, what MMM is saying is that cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin cannot presently operate as currencies. January 11, 2018, 12:03 am. Shit. Evidently you weren’t invested in Pets.com and other “rising stars” with no hope of ever getting profitable. ”, Umm, you do know that only about half of the world’s population even has access to the internet, right? PS: Brent, you write that “if earnings don’t pan out, stock prices won’t necessarily drop. And a currency that’s not used for transactions isn’t a real currency. So, I PayPal’d you the $100 for your fingernail clippings before I got to the part about them going for $70,000. Bond *prices* are higher than ever today, which is the reciprocal of them having a high yield. – I can leave the country with it if the government ever gets out of hand (I can’t do that with gold or cash since it will likely be confiscated or banks be frozen). So long as you have the self control / personality to only invest what you can easily afford to lose and to not let it consume your time and energy (not true of most people but more so mustachians) then there seems to be a potentially large upside. :), https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/941500121564332032, farmecologist And pray blurt out as to why it is bad equivocation? Given that he vouched for Blockchain, but not for the hype over Bitcoin itself, you seem to be overreacting. There are dozens more data points just like these. 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